Armor absorbtion confusion.. - Guild Wars Forums

rukia miharu · Aug 27, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

I first red this here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Absorption

"Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduce physical damage taken by 3. This effect is not global, and the damage reduction only applies to hits taken on area of the body covered by knights or ascalon armor."

But then after talking to someone who said hes been playing for like 18months, he sais that Wiki was wrong and that the Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduction IS actually global.

I tried to search on this forum and seen some 1year old thread confirming what this person was saying but nothing too recent. So what is it, is wiki wrong and the reduction is global? Or was it changed recently and wiki is right?

Loviatar · Aug 27, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by rukia miharu

I first red this here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Absorption

"Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduce physical damage taken by 3. This effect is not global, and the damage reduction only applies to hits taken on area of the body covered by knights or ascalon armor."

But then after talking to someone who said hes been playing for like 18months, he sais that Wiki was wrong and that the Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduction IS actually global.

I tried to search on this forum and seen some 1year old thread confirming what this person was saying but nothing too recent. So what is it, is wiki wrong and the reduction is global? Or was it changed recently and wiki is right?

THE GLOBAL HAS BEEN FIXED RECENTLY AND HE IS WRONG.

PROTECTION IS NOT GLOBAL ANYMORE

rukia miharu · Aug 27, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

You dont know how happy you just made me, I was affraid I just wasted 10 platinum on pointless knight armor that doesnt stack.

The Muffen Man · Aug 27, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

It used to be global but in an update not too long ago anet fixed that bug along with the -2 on shields and the absorbtion rune where they used to be against all damage now only vs physical

rukia miharu · Aug 27, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Oh and while we're on the subject, could you just confirm if superior rune of absorbtion stack with the knight armor? (even tho Im pretty sure it does, just want to remove all doubts from my mind

).

Age · Aug 27, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by rukia miharu

You dont know how happy you just made me, I was affraid I just wasted 10 platinum on pointless knight armor that doesnt stack.

This is wrong about it doesn't stack it now does as it didn't use to be before as it would say non stacking.This is why it was global.

Loviatar · Aug 27, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by rukia miharu

Oh and while we're on the subject, could you just confirm if superior rune of absorbtion stack with the knight armor? (even tho Im pretty sure it does, just want to remove all doubts from my mind

).

sup absorb rune will stack with anything except another absorb rune

armor plus rune yes

rune plus rune no

Former Ruling · Aug 27, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

You still wasted 10 Plat on Knights armor though. :\ It is subpar armor even with the reduce now being 3. Other armors have higher AL which just pwns -3 dmg...

Remember even TEN more AL > -3 reduce

Align · Aug 27, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

You only need one sup absorb, any more than that is a waste of money and armor rune slots.
But each piece of knights/ascalon "increases" the chance of taking reduced physical damage(check guildwiki for % chance of being hit on a particular piece of your armor), since if youre hit where you aren't wearing any reduction armor, itll only be reduced by your other modifiers such as shield or rune.

Dzan · Aug 27, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

You still wasted 10 Plat on Knights armor though. :\ It is subpar armor even with the reduce now being 3. Other armors have higher AL which just pwns -3 dmg...

Remember even TEN more AL > -3 reduce

Quoted for truth.

majoho · Aug 27, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Don't worry about what some people say, in many situations damage reductions is better than higher armor.

imsystem · Aug 27, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by majoho

Don't worry about what some people say, in many situations damage reductions is better than higher armor.

but more often in normal play your not taking physical dmg.

i think dmg reduction is almost usless now unless your farming specific enemys that only do physical.

Russell.Crowe · Aug 27, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

glads ftw?

Sekkira · Aug 28, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Actually -3 damage reduction is equivilant to 10AL. On top of that, considering it's a solid damage reduction, damage isn't reduced by percentage. If you are being hit for physical damage of 3 at 100AL, bring it up to 110AL and you'll still be taking at least 1 damage. Damage reduction will cancel that out and you'll be hit for a bunch of 0's.

Aug 27, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#1
rukia miharu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006	Armor absorbtion confusion.. I first red this here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Absorption "Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduce physical damage taken by 3. This effect is not global, and the damage reduction only applies to hits taken on area of the body covered by knights or ascalon armor." But then after talking to someone who said hes been playing for like 18months, he sais that Wiki was wrong and that the Ascalon Armor and Knight's Armor reduction IS actually global. I tried to search on this forum and seen some 1year old thread confirming what this person was saying but nothing too recent. So what is it, is wiki wrong and the reduction is global? Or was it changed recently and wiki is right?

Aug 27, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#3
rukia miharu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006	You dont know how happy you just made me, I was affraid I just wasted 10 platinum on pointless knight armor that doesnt stack.

Aug 27, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#4
The Muffen Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Druery Lane Profession: W/	It used to be global but in an update not too long ago anet fixed that bug along with the -2 on shields and the absorbtion rune where they used to be against all damage now only vs physical

Aug 27, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#5
rukia miharu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2006	Oh and while we're on the subject, could you just confirm if superior rune of absorbtion stack with the knight armor? (even tho Im pretty sure it does, just want to remove all doubts from my mind ).

Aug 27, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#8
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	You still wasted 10 Plat on Knights armor though. :\ It is subpar armor even with the reduce now being 3. Other armors have higher AL which just pwns -3 dmg... Remember even TEN more AL > -3 reduce

Aug 27, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#9
Align Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Protectors of Awesome[AWE] Profession: W/	You only need one sup absorb, any more than that is a waste of money and armor rune slots. But each piece of knights/ascalon "increases" the chance of taking reduced physical damage(check guildwiki for % chance of being hit on a particular piece of your armor), since if youre hit where you aren't wearing any reduction armor, itll only be reduced by your other modifiers such as shield or rune.

Aug 27, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#11
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Don't worry about what some people say, in many situations damage reductions is better than higher armor.

Aug 27, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18	#13
Russell.Crowe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005	glads ftw?

Aug 28, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51	#14
Sekkira Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canberra, AU	Actually -3 damage reduction is equivilant to 10AL. On top of that, considering it's a solid damage reduction, damage isn't reduced by percentage. If you are being hit for physical damage of 3 at 100AL, bring it up to 110AL and you'll still be taking at least 1 damage. Damage reduction will cancel that out and you'll be hit for a bunch of 0's.